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  • #4815

    Rana Goodman
    Keymaster

    Resident Tim Stebbins wrote Larry Griffith re: the no sport flag rule on Tuesday, to date,  Wednesday 1:50pm Tim has received no reply

    Mr. Griffith is the chairman of the Architectural Review Committee (ARC).  ARC is the group that decides what flags cannot be displayed and the group that will impose a fine on residents who display any flag on the NO Fly List:.

    Dear Mr. Griffith,

    Our CAM, Elyssa Rammos, has informed me the ARC Committee has made certain determinations about what types of flags can be displayed on any SCA home on the flag holders but there is nothing in writing about such determinations.

    For example, what are considered “patriotic flags” and what are not patriotic flags and thus prohibited?

    Is a Canadian flag displayed on Canada Day (or any other day) permitted or forbidden?  Is an Israeli flag displayed on the anniversary if Israel creation (or any other day) permitted or forbidden?   Are UK flags on the birthday or other major event of Queen Elizabeth II (or any other days) permitted or forbidden?  Can a Mexican flag be displayed on Cinco De Mayo (or any other days)?  And so on.

    Are State flags like Nevada and other states such as California, New Your, Minnesota, etc. – permitted or forbidden? – on any day or just on some days?

    Are Flags for our military – Armey, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard permitted?  – at any time or just on certain days?  Flags for other military like the RAF, the RAAF, the Roya Navy, etc. – just some countries or all countries or no other countries – on any day or just on certain days.

    Are political flags such “Let’s make America Great again” “or “We Love Hillary” permitted or forbidden? – any days or just certain days?

    What are flags are “appropriate for holidays”?  Christian holidays – all or just some?  Jewish holidays-all or just some?  Secular holidays like Halloween and Thanksgiving – all or just some?  Are flags for celebrations of other countries like France, Germany, Holland, Italy China, Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc. permitted or forbidden? –  on all days or just certain days?

    Are flags for sports teams – football, baseball, basketball – permitted or forbidden? – on all days or just certain days?

    The list can go on and on because there are no guidelines and it seems the allowed vs. not allowed flags is a bit arbitrary known only to the ARC Committee and Community Standards person, James Arteaga.  Thus, SCA residents are in the dark.

    A problem is that Mr. Arteaga has stated he will vigorously enforce his views of non-permitted flags with violation letters and possible monetary fines if residents do obey his views.

    Do SCA residents have to come to you personally to determine if a flag is permitted or forbidden?  Can the question be presented to anyone else?

    Are the views of prohibited flags by ARC and Mr. Arteaga the same?

    Thank you for your help on this issue.

    Tim Stebbins

     

    #4818

    Mark Cook
    Participant

    One could question the patriotism of anyone that wants to display a flag for an NFL team that shows contempt and disrespect for our national anthem and all that it STANDs FOR.

    #4821

    Dick
    Participant

    Mr. Griffith is a great example of WHAT’S WRONG  with Sun City Anthem.

    Vigorously enforce and fine a homeowner by displaying a sports flag?  Has this place gone nuts?

    Just another example as to why the Spring 2019 election is so important….

    …to rid ourselves of such individuals who would place such a person on a committee whose need for a “power trip” exceeds common sense.

    What has become of our community?

     

     

     

    #4845

    Neal Matzkin
    Participant

    When each of us bought a house here we agreed to be bound by the CC&Rs.  If you did not read them, did not understand them or forgot what was in them, that is on you, not SCA.  Whether or not there shoud be active enforcement is another issue, but to denegrate those responsible for their enforcement is not acceptable.  I do not care about sports flags, but they are currently not permitted according to the regs you accepted, like it or not.   The CC&Rs were put in place by Del Webb for what ever, and they may all not be appropiate for us now.   The worst thing a HOA can do is to not enforce or selectively enforce the CC&Rs. This can lead to all sorts of legal liability for the HOA.  It is one of the reasons for active enforcement.  The way to approach this is to have the standards changed.  There are several ways to accomplish this but a temper tantrum is not one of them.    The same goes for the two 5 foot tree rule.  You agreed to maintain your property, even if it costs you some money, according to the standards.  Realizee that trees only have to be tall and there are many varieties of them, like palms, that don’t take up much space for those of you in narrow  houses with small yards.

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